17yrs have passed to the incident of 'Ram Mandir - Babri Masjid incident' and there is still no solution, because all the political parties are baking there cookies over it......
Now i will like to go into the history of Mr. Babur, he was a Persian invader, a merciless bandit referred as 'messenger of death' in GURU GRANTH SAHIB, demolisher of hundreds of Hindu and Jain temples, who ordered to demolish the most sacred Hindu Temple - The birth place of Lord Ram, and build a mosque there of his name, as a symbol of victory over 'kafir(non Muslims)'.........The only question how can anyone worship such devil..???
And most importantly the things said by many ppl "its way bac in 1550s, let the status quo remain", why sir..?? why..??; its not Hindu-Muslim matter, its matter of Indian-ism; Babur was not Indian, like Britishers were not Indian, so why Bombay is Mumbai, Victoria terminus is Chatrapati Shivaji terminus and Calcutta - Kolkata, why not maintain the status quo there..???
And there are thousands of temples which Hindus are not claiming back, but RAM JANM BHUMI per se is not one of them; is claiming back your own thing is wrong..?? i guess No..
One of my friend said that "I am a Hindu, we are Hindu but who gave the contract to R.S.S. or B.J.P. to free that land...who asked them to do so" my sincere answer was "they all were Indians, but who gave the contract to Bhagat Singh n Shubash Chandra Bose to free India"; if you are sleeping that does not means that sun will not rise and wind will not blow and earth will not revolve....Being tolerant does not mean surrender to appeasement of the vote bank of some political party.
Morally nd legally correct will be that the claim is given to the original owners. The original owners could not claim it back owing to the prevailing muslim monarchy, where they have to pay jaziya(Tax on the non Muslims) for there survival. Not much has changed since then.................we sing a national anthem which was originaly drafted by Mr. Tagore is in praise of King George V and the Queen of England when they visited India in 1919....ha ha Funny
Well hope there is a peaceful solution to the sensetive Babri problem.
"aalim yeh kehta wahan ishwar hai, Faazil yeh kehta wahan allah hai, Kabur yeh kehta wahan issa hai, Manzil yeh kehti tab insaan se ki, Tumhari hai tum hi sambhalo yeh duniya," - Piyush Mishra
# Ref
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babri_Mosque
Guru Granth Sahib
Baburnama
and some literature i got from my dadi
12 comments:
good stuff dude
Thnx Sir...
gud....
but keeping a base of one religion ,other religion's fact cud not b taken as evidence
VHP or RSS cnt b compared with bhagat singh
plz sir, remaining was good
@ashwin..ya thts true but every1 knws the truth dude....
@whoevr it is.....no individual cn b compared with ne otr individual.....n u knw tht bhagat singh wer also nt considerd nethin at tht time, its now tht we value them
what have they achieved now ???
fighting is never a solution
neither it was at Bhagat Sigh's time
(I respect Bhagat Singh ... but do not agree with his ideology)
nor it is today
Infact atleast pehle babri masjid k neeche the temple was atleast functional
now with so much loss of blood, time and money
situations r even worse
was the result worth the price??
And Also how different r we from Babar(Devil) as u said..
@Vrinda
"now with so much loss of blood, time and money
situations r even worse"
mmmm...r u in favor of freeing the 'Aksai chin' and the P.O.K. or there also you feel the same..??
Well, it seems that the only problem you have is with the Name of the Masjid:- “Mr. Babri Masjid”. In that case, a peaceful solution could be to file an application for ‘Change of Name’ with the Registrar of Mosques in the prescribed form!
Justifying an event which tarnished India’s secular credentials beyond repair is like making a mockery of our Constitution.
“Morally & Legally Correct will be that the claim is given to the original owners.” I would be highly enlightened to know who, as per you, were/are the original owners. Is it the saffron-draped BJP Government once led by religious fanatics like Uma Bharti, who’s chest inflates with pride every time she’s reminded of the unrighteous demolition, or is it Lord Rama himself? Or is it like Lord Rama under a Will/Power of Attorney has empowered certain people in this country to claim the land back?
It’s ironical that the writer who seconds the act of razing of the mosque & now wishes to claim the land back (as it’s “their” thing) ends up with the pensive lines of Piyush Mishra “Tumhari hai tum hi sambhalo yeh duniya”.
The same man Piyush Mishra also used the words of Sahir Ludhianvi in the same song which goes like “Yeh mahalon, yeh takhton, yeh taajon ki duniya… Yeh Duniya agar mil bhi jaye toh kya hai…”
Ask yourself, “What if even you get the land back?”
Again the same question to u dear...
are you in favor of getting the P.O.K. back or you will say "Ye duniya agar mil bhi jaaye to kya hai..??" or i must say the words of Mr. Jawaher lal Nehru(Congress) on China's intrusion in India "le gaye to le gaye, waise bhi wo banjar bhumi thi ghaas ka ek tinka bhi nahi ugta tha waha pe"...(us nehru ko daheez me mili thi jaise)
and if change of name will do anything then lets rename India...How do you define secular..??
1- Hating Hindu Festivals like "Diwali me crackers nahi shor hota hai, pollution hota hai" and 12am of the 1st jan the crackers become noiseless n pollution-free.
2-The Bali Ceremony in Chamunda Mata temple is taken as 'Mahimamandan' and wrong practice where one single bali is given....and the Bakra Id is taken as there sacred festival. (Halal is so peaceful thing na over the jhatka.)
3- a Hindu cant buy land in J&K....(why..??, terrorism hatega na us se..ooh)
4-HUJ is subsidized and Hindu pilgrims are taxed.
there are tones of example which India has given to the world that they are servants of the voting community, they give ration cards to the illegal Bangladeshi immigrants to vote them. There is no BJP no Congress no Left party there is only one thing "Kursi" (ie power and money), all are same.
Original owners are in this case is the Hindu people of India and now please don't say that issue equity shares of the temple, and if extension is done in temple then issue bonus shares.
Country cant be governed like a company that every single thing is passed with show of hands or ...The mob has its own powers, the thing was done in wrong manner that i can understand, but the judicial system is such, the political system is such that frustrated mob can be violent at times to claim there right...(i am not telling anybody to stone throw the IT office to claim refunds.)
One thing is sure, there is no peaceful solution, there will be blood.And i must add here the words of congress leader Mr. Rajeev Gandhi(after the anti Sikh riot) "jab koi bada ped girta hai to dharti hilti hai aur neeche log kuchalte he hai" funny justification for killing of innocent Sikh.....Brother the mosque is demanded to be broken the Muhammadans are as Indian as any Hindu, why dont they people leave there claim and give a example to the world.
I would still say “Yeh duinya agar mil bhi jaaye toh kya hai…”
Not because it bothers me the least if our neighboring country runs off with a piece of our land but because I question in harmony with the writer “What if even I get this land/world?”
I do understand that a country is not run as per the philosophies of a Shayar who can hold a quill & can magnanimously renounce his claim on the world.
Hence, we must leave these matters for the administrators of our nation to manage.
But the heart bleeds when these elected administrators become perpetrators of savagery & go on a rampage by razing any monument they think is illegitimate only because their Agenda is Hindutva?
Now what does this bloody “Hindutva” mean?
You would be enlightened to know that the word “Hindutva”, coined by Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, is a term used to describe movements advocating “Hindu Nationalism”. And the bastards who are members of this movement are called “Hidutvadis”.
I can go on describing & lifting the veil from this exceptionally bad & displeasing word “Hindutva” & its irrational ideology but that would be falling on deaf ears.
And the “frustrated mob” you are talking about is not frustrated because some Mr. Babur in some 16th century demolished some Ram Mandir & built some Masjid (of his name) there. They are frustrated because they are not earning as well as the top brass is doing & hence they become soft targets for these Top Leaders.
What does it take to create a “frustrated mob”?
Hold a rally with all your top leaders draped in Saffron (supposedly the colour of Hindutva) on the stage holding some Trishuls, Dhanush & Talwars (supposedly the weapons of Hindu Gods with whom they fought against Branded Evils like Ravana & Kans) & prepare a Speech with explicit provocative content enough to arouse the unemployed Mob to hold the same weapons & drape in the same colour so that it makes them feel that they are nothing short of God!
Period.
The same people, after their mission is accomplished, come out in the public saying, “Mohammedans are as Indian as any Hindu.”
Well, congratulations to them. They succeeded in pulling the wool over your eyes.
Ya, you are right may be Mr. Nehru ko kuch jyada he acchi lag gayi thi ye lines after he made Pakistan to become the P.M. of India in lieu of Jinnah...power hungry kahi ka.
these politicians don't want the matters to be solved brother, if every village has road, electricity, water n food on what basis will they beg for votes..?? some party wants Muslim votes, so they are ready to give reservations and funding to madarsa n all by the temple funds(the amount raised by the temple by offering of people).
and on Veer Savarkar issue, i must tell that my per dadaji was Sarverkar activist or as you said “Hidutvadis”. Now look here the Muslim board - Muslim league may say anything they want, nobody gives a damn on them, they have all right to form a Mohammedan nation, run anti national activities, dis respect the national song and anthem. But we are more concerned about the Hindu leaders because we are secular, when we talk about the terrorist people say that they are doing so because they were oppressed n all bullshit, so that means they have all right to retaliate because they are minority they are terrorist because they misinterpret the book they believe in, in India if any one is in minority then its Indian....we have no true Indian, we curse the system and do nothing, we don't even vote and curse the politics, we cheat in exams and say 'itna to chalta hai', we dont follow the traffic rules and say "kamino ko to paisa chahiye". We have false ethics n flexi beliefs.
HINDUISM means to live and let live, to tolerate small things n live freely, but the person who cant defend itself is not a Hindu. Ive been taught from the childhood that we don't have any religion, Hindutva for me is not about doing scented sticks in front of a stone statue everyday , but i have respect for those who do all this, like i have respect for the person going to tennis court everyday.And I condemn those who say "Mandir ki jagah mall banta", everyone has right to do whatever he/she likes without disturbing others, its 3 in night and while writing i am disturbed by the 'jagratri' in my neighborhood, i am disturbed by the azaan as well, wrongs have no religion.
I must say that my father is earning enough and i have a bright future but i would have offered my self for that demolition, i barely go to temple though.
and yeah saffron is the color of hindutva, and i don't believe in any leader beside Vajpayee, Abdul kalam aazad, Mod(Development wise).
i condemn the killing of humans may it be Hindu may it b Muslim, guilty must be punished. No riot is justified.
and if its just a piece of land why dont Mohammedans leave there claim, who the hell gave them right to protect the masjid..?? was there a vote out..?? call decedents of babur only they can claim the property...no no..The Mohammedan mob is right, because they vote uni-directionally.
Cheers to the Indian Politics "manne tikat do saa, maare aate raajpoot ghana hai"....SECULAR the only secular person i found till date is "Mr Abdul Kalam Aazad" rest all are pseudo secular.
Post a Comment